Console Confusion

Console Confusion

Console Confusion

by Steve Napierski to Articles

So, what you’re saying is that I should just buy an Xbox 360?

source: Twitter

Discussion (17)¬

  1. Argonnar
    Argonnar says:
    June 15, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

    For the “loaning” part of the graphic, they are using the wrong word. I believe “gifting” would be more appropriate. Xbox One games cannot be loaned (unless you count the “family” system they’ve got going on). They can be given to people who have been on your friends list for 30 days, but each game can only be given once, ever. As such, it cannot be returned to the previous owner, and thus it cannot be considered a “loan.”

    • BigLord
      BigLord says:
      June 15, 2013 at 9:15 pm #

      Holy geez that’s AWFUL! The Xbone gets worse everytime I hear about it D:

      • Tustin2121
        Tustin2121 says:
        June 17, 2013 at 9:39 am #

        It’s almost as if this thing Microsoft is doing is overly complex and completely unnessecary and hurts everyone trying to use it. It’s almost as if Publishers are really stupid and don’t want anyone to actually play their gam, just give them large wads of money. It’s almost as if this is DRM!! But I repeat myself.

    • Guest
      Guest says:
      June 16, 2013 at 4:51 am #
  2. yue
    yue says:
    June 16, 2013 at 1:01 am #

    As a PC gamer I couldn’t care less. I’m just laughing at all the drama when we PC gamers have pretty much accepted the fact you can’t resell and can’t loan. As for playing offline, depends on the games and the service they are on. Steam can play Offline as long as the game and client is fully updated and you went offline at least once while online.

    • Zombie
      Zombie says:
      June 18, 2013 at 11:02 am #

      You lost all credibility when you started off your post with “As a PC gamer.”

  3. Jonn
    Jonn says:
    June 16, 2013 at 5:53 am #

    Except, of course, Sony has admitted that publishers can block reselling and loaning on the PS4 too

    • Sky Render
      Sky Render says:
      June 16, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

      Whew, for a moment there I was worried Sony might have actually decided to do something honest and non-deceptive. Their perfect snake oil salesman streak remains intact after all.

      I suppose if I’m going to get a system at all this gen, it’ll be a Wii U. Just like last gen. Thank goodness most of the games worth playing get PC ports too, so I won’t really miss out on much from either Sony or MS’ systems.

    • James
      James says:
      June 16, 2013 at 2:15 pm #

      It sounded to me like a hedge to cover edge cases like an MMO or something that requires constant online service and includes some kind of one-time code in the box, or the “Project Ten Dollar” pass from the current generation. It definitely sounded like this will not be the norm. Specifically, it sounds like the PC-style “CD Key” will be baked into the disk with XB1 but will not be so for the PS4…

    • mattyj2308
      mattyj2308 says:
      June 16, 2013 at 2:39 pm #

      Thing is though publishers could do that now if they wanted to, all they’d need to do is make the online pass necessary for the whole game, then make new copies the only place where passes where available. I think the problem people are having is the fact that Microsoft seem to be actively encouraging the idea of eliminating used games with the hardware, whereas Sony seem to be doing the smart thing (from a pr perspective at least) and making responsibility lie with the publisher instead.

    • Xeraxis
      Xeraxis says:
      June 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm #

      You mean with Online Pass (already confirmed by EA to be going the way of the dodo) or Uplay? You are aware both of those options are a part of the current gen of games and can only limit online play not offline? You’re aware that XBone will not allow you to play them online or offline with its DRM? Too much misinformation being spread.

  4. James
    James says:
    June 16, 2013 at 2:13 pm #

    For re-sale, you forgot the part where you’re only allowed to sell to GameStop (“or other select partners”, i.e. not anybody you care about). Also absent: borrowing from the library, and renting games.

  5. Tustin2121
    Tustin2121 says:
    June 17, 2013 at 9:35 am #

    Wii U: has been doing everything PS4 claims they will do for the past year already, and has been giving away shepeard’s pie and Cadbury Creme eggs because they want you to like them, but they just don’t have any high profile exclusive games yet.

    * No actual food was given away, this was metaphorical.

  6. Jarrett
    Jarrett says:
    June 18, 2013 at 6:45 am #

    This is Microsoft fucking us over hardcore so that when they ease it back, we all relax even though we’re still getting relatively fucked compared to before (a la the gas prices of the past decade and a half: from $1.50 to $5.00 then back down to $3.50 making us all feel better.)

    • Zombie
      Zombie says:
      June 18, 2013 at 11:07 am #

      Bite the pillow, I’m going in dry!

  7. prime_pm
    prime_pm says:
    June 18, 2013 at 9:02 am #

    You know, I remember once when I started complaining about DRM’s, the early days when they started up, eg. Settlers #. Back then, I was pissed to high hell, and I ranted about it to someone I knew. He gave me the best advice I’d ever heard:

    Complain with your wallet, not your mouth.

    If you have a problem with something, just don’t buy it. Simple as that.

  8. DrSlater
    DrSlater says:
    June 19, 2013 at 7:50 pm #

    They backflipped on all of this today: used games, borrowed games, and offline play are all happening as they do now after a day 1 update